tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203604655093315663.post2513540579956495703..comments2024-03-25T07:01:39.353-07:00Comments on Conor Byrne Historian: Elizabeth's Heir: Margaret Stanley, Countess of DerbyConorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09815745211426638820noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203604655093315663.post-8103523611242260232016-12-08T06:12:18.917-08:002016-12-08T06:12:18.917-08:00Anne Stanley, countess of Castlehaven, was the gra...Anne Stanley, countess of Castlehaven, was the granddaughter of Lady Margaret Clifford, and therefore a great-great-granddaughter of Mary Tudor. As the daughter of Ferdinand, she had a senior claim to the throne than her uncle William did.Conorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09815745211426638820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203604655093315663.post-36633967177719268282016-03-30T21:11:58.108-07:002016-03-30T21:11:58.108-07:00William Stanley, 6th Earl of Derby, would have b...William Stanley, 6th Earl of Derby, would have been the rightful heir according to Henry VIII's will, not Anne Stanley. Guesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04274129115107161220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203604655093315663.post-84705100817626031272016-03-30T12:38:16.640-07:002016-03-30T12:38:16.640-07:00Thanks for your comment. Quite right, and William ...Thanks for your comment. Quite right, and William died in 1642.Conorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09815745211426638820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203604655093315663.post-78236191809461873472016-03-29T14:16:21.355-07:002016-03-29T14:16:21.355-07:00You seem to have forgotten about William Stanley.You seem to have forgotten about William Stanley.Guesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04274129115107161220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203604655093315663.post-27686793859572114932016-02-11T13:30:53.752-08:002016-02-11T13:30:53.752-08:00Interesting. I think Elizabeh was wise to make ja...Interesting. I think Elizabeh was wise to make james her heir, he would undoubtedly have been considered more suitable than Margraet Stanley, louiseculmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02092144618449134125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203604655093315663.post-10769375708453940312016-01-18T10:56:43.226-08:002016-01-18T10:56:43.226-08:00Thanks for your comment Lynn. Leanda de Lisle make...Thanks for your comment Lynn. Leanda de Lisle makes the fascinating point that Elizabeth I was considerably more fearful of the Grey claim to the throne than the claim of Mary, Queen of Scots, and de Lisle presents evidence that Elizabeth was particularly antipathetic towards Catherine Grey, especially when Catherine married Edward Seymour, earl of Hertford and gave birth to two sons, thus strengthening her claim to the throne as Elizabeth's heir. I would say, though, that Charles Brandon behaved in accordance with the customs of his time. It was not considered unusual for older noblemen to wed young gentlewomen; Henry VIII married the teenaged Katherine Howard when he was in his late forties, and his sister Mary had been eighteen when she married the much older Louis XII of France. Mary certainly seems to have loved Charles and was determined to marry him once Louis had died. Conorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09815745211426638820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203604655093315663.post-34481933934904379272016-01-17T10:24:24.776-08:002016-01-17T10:24:24.776-08:00I had never realized just how harsh Elizabeth had ...I had never realized just how harsh Elizabeth had been towards the Grey sisters, in particular, and to the Brandon family. I can remember reading that Elizabeth's aunt, Mary Rose Tudor, championed Catherine of Aragon and did not like or approve of Elizabeth's mother, Anne Boleyn. Surely, Elizabeth was aware of the Brandons' attitude towards her mother and how difficult Anne's life would have been as a result... (I have never understood why Mary Rose and Charles Brandon's relationship is viewed as a 'love match' since he seems like a gigalo, marrying heiresses to ratchet up his social and financial status in society. Even marrying a child, only weeks after his wife's death, has not hurt his image... ) Your article certainly gives me quite a bit to ponder... the Grey sisters seem to have born the brunt of the Brandons' ambitions... tragic stories...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08824372207946158002noreply@blogger.com