tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203604655093315663.post9174422479484092845..comments2024-03-25T07:01:39.353-07:00Comments on Conor Byrne Historian: The Birth and Death of Elizabeth of YorkConorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09815745211426638820noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203604655093315663.post-76611242115006694872017-10-15T14:03:20.577-07:002017-10-15T14:03:20.577-07:00Some say the marriage had to be happy because Henr...Some say the marriage had to be happy because Henry Tudor did not remarry Read a book called The Winter King Henry attempts towed his own pretty, widowed daughter in-law! Incestuous lust anyone? What a hypocrite! Katherine of Aragon was spared this humiliation by her parents who.opposed this improper unionCassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12060509343278506752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203604655093315663.post-81948891253976844512017-02-08T07:42:23.820-08:002017-02-08T07:42:23.820-08:00Quite agree. Although Joanna had a vocation to be...Quite agree. Although Joanna had a vocation to be a nun, she agreed to marry Richard, but had a vision about his death. The treaty had been concluded with Richard to marry Joanna and Elizabeth of York her brother, Manuel. There is also no proof that Richard was unpopular among the majority of his people, in spite of lies and rumours. The sources continue to say that ordinary people lauded and praised Richard and he was loved for his laws which helped them. He lost support in the South due to his replacement of the gentry, but again not among the ordinary people who took their grievances to him and got relief from him. He was horrified when he heard he was linked to Elizabeth of York. He may have thought she was attractive, but he would not commit incest. He may have been asked to deny it, but he did so publicly none the less. Richard didn't have to do anything. Richard wanted to unite the houses, a marriage to Joanna did this.BanditQueenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00882124187978187632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203604655093315663.post-69296848381309615702016-02-11T13:17:59.646-08:002016-02-11T13:17:59.646-08:00It seems unlikely that Elizabeth would have ruled ...It seems unlikely that Elizabeth would have ruled England had she been a boy, because she would probably have bern bumped off along with her brothers.louiseculmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02092144618449134125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203604655093315663.post-72076525240854645132015-09-11T12:42:02.167-07:002015-09-11T12:42:02.167-07:00I just want to point out that actually their was n...I just want to point out that actually their was no indication that Richard III favored Elizabeth above that over his wife or even bastard daughter. Wearing fine clothes is actually an indication that she was in favor with Anne not Richard, courts often held costumes and pageantry especially during christmas time. Elizabeth being a lady to the Queen would have been expected to participate in these. Ladies of the Queen dressed very finely and given that Anne and Elizabeth are described as being similar in appearance it wouldn't be unlikely that they wore similar styles of clothing in order to flatter their figure.<br /> Richard III seems actually very upset about the rumors when he denies then he already has sent ships out to arrange his marriage to Joanna of Portugal and Elizabeth's to the Duke Manuel, later Manuel I of Portugal. Given how closely soon the ships were sent out after Anne's death (6 days I believe) it indicates these plans had been talked about for sometime. (Probably in February when it was apparent Anne wouldn't recover) Richard denying the rumors indicates more his displeasure as Kings did not deny rumors. Even more so Richard "Openly shows his grief" implies he was crying at this event, which is another odd thing for a King to do. <br />So all and all the rumors about Elizabeth and Richard are false on both sides, not just on one side. Richard didn't want to marry her, nor would he cheat on a wife he seemed very much dedicated too (Richard even took a stance against "open adultery") and Elizabeth I doubt would want to be the Queen to the man who ruined her life more or less. Kaylahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03084475488482770620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203604655093315663.post-11149288507456214622014-03-09T15:06:33.361-07:002014-03-09T15:06:33.361-07:00interesting and well written. love your use of ph...interesting and well written. love your use of phillipa gregory's "REWORKING" of history.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07612530184105763628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203604655093315663.post-49332983537448977452014-02-23T12:35:28.497-08:002014-02-23T12:35:28.497-08:00No problem - thanks very much for your kind commen...No problem - thanks very much for your kind comment! Conorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09815745211426638820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203604655093315663.post-90758253669285066332014-02-23T11:12:16.131-08:002014-02-23T11:12:16.131-08:00I love your articles on the history of English bri...I love your articles on the history of English brides and queens. Thanks!Chris Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18147635186270481246noreply@blogger.com